And I said, I understand that. But according to a recent email by MacDonald, he's a victim of defamation by an "envious child"and needs your money "to rebuild." "Tragically . And so I was pulling into the garage, and I knew I knew, as soon as I pulled in the garage, you know, I was, I was gonna go drive up to whatever floor and go to the meeting. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. Yeah. And I just remember my first feeling, you know, just honestly, relief. And the pain is overwhelming. To myself, I said, and do our job. The pastor of the largest church in Minnesota (around 23,000 average . But it was at this point that I started to reach out to Harvest and really seeking their comment on some of the things that I had heard. No One Knows. I payed for you and James. Longtime leader of the Chicago-area megachurch Harvest Bible Chapel James MacDonald has been ousted as senior pastor in light of unsavory remarks he made on a hot mic that were aired on local media Tuesday. And that was actually the night we went, we went into the I think we went to one oclock in the morning and actually walked through whether James McDonald was qualified as an elder. I was at work. She wanted me to look at it. They discuss the role of journalism as it relates to local churches and prominent leaders, and her her current work investigating Harvest Bible Chapel and Pastor James MacDonald. But by the middle of day, right, we were talking about how we were clearly going to have to have an elder board meeting that night. So that tells you something about the backbone and the integrity of Dan Marquardt. Julie, are you saying that you support trans mutilation/murder of pre-born children/and are against conservatives? And they said, I remember Dan telling me that that James slammed his fist on the table. And the things that were done to them after they left. I think of the timing, I think it was earlier that day, that I actually I sent I had sent Sandys letter out, because Sandy sent, she addressed her letter to the elder board. And had those letters not reach the board, its hard to say where James McDonald would be today. Yet, Dan, you owned it. Following allegations of years-long bullying and financial misconduct, the lead pastor and executive team of an Association of Related Churches (ARC) megachurch, Everyone was laughing and goading, like it was a jokeuntil it wasnt. It wasnt an easy thing to do. I mean, I got exonerated rather quickly. So he was fired. Today the guys share their conversation with journalist, author, and speaker Julie Roys. The news came less than a week after another update from Julie Roys, . And I had already written back to Executive Committee Chairman at the time and said, we cannot say unconditional support. There were six people who were brave enough, vulnerable enough to write letters. Thank you. The audio recording that the elders reference was aired on popular Chicago radio personality Mancow Muller's show.Muller, once a trusted friend and confidant of MacDonald and also a member of Harvest Bible Chapel, has used his platform recently to call the pastor out on his less-than-exemplary handling of his critics. Gosh she is just filthy with gossip as fact and at very best half the story. pretty rotten.. I stepped away from my computer a couple of times. But James McDonald, he did not like to fly with the commoners, from what I understand. It was a battle in the natural but more than that, there was a spiritual battle going on then, and I think its still going on now. But to tell people they have to stay in a situation of violence, trauma and harm, or return to it, this is not a core tenet of Christianity. But he said even the way said that he said, we got out of that meeting, we looked at each other. It looks like these contemporary churches are just fundamentalists in different garb. You can unconditionally love someone. Yeah, yeah. 1) Julie Roys. And it was a pretty tough meeting. So, Dan, thank you for that. Visconti also had posts supporting far-right causes. They should go to the reconciliation team. So I appreciate it. Christian Rocker Posts Stunning Response to Recent Apostasy of Christian Leaders, Chicago Radio Host & a Former Bodyguard Say James MacDonald Asked Them to Arrange Murders, James MacDonald Took Millions from Harvest & Now Demands Broadcast Ministry, Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald: My Response. I mean, just stuff that you just cant even fathom comes from a man who supposedly is a man of God, a preacher of the gospel. Because they stood up to James or they just tried to walk away quietly because they couldnt they couldnt stomach what was going on any any longer. I knew I had to do it. Please dont read something into a story thats not there. This is a story that directly contradicts what MacDonald published in recent videos and statements on his webpage. I dont know how the person who gave them to me got them. It seems we are being punished for the acts of someone who was our spiritual leader and was misleading us in a very unqualified way. Its not being nice, polite, or inoffensive. In October, Harvest along with lead pastor James MacDonald filed a defamation lawsuit against the author of the World article, Julie Roys, for "asserting false allegations" during her eight . Well, because Scripture says you do it in front of everybody. This is the most used and abused (pun intended) argument. She first came to my attention with James MacDonald, then with Ravi Zacharias, and now John McArthur plus one of his side-kicks is in her cross-hairs. James MacDonald (born October 4, 1960) is a Canadian-born evangelical Christian pastor, television evangelist, and author. Shame on you for reading scripture! And I was still on the elder board, we shrunk the elder board that next week down to nine men. And I got the text. And scripture is really clear that its got to be, you know, two or three witnesses. Dan and his wife, Kim, subsequently left Harvest, but remain committed to the integrity of the Church and caring for those who have been hurt in the Church. . So, Julie Roys decided to do what she does best - investigative journalism - in order to find out the truth in the world of m. And while youre at it, Id really appreciate it if youd help us spread the word about the podcast by leaving a review. I talked to other people who told me of demands that he made for private jets on numerous occasions. Prominent evangelical scholar, author, and missiologist, Ed Stetzer, is leaving his position as executive director of Wheaton Colleges The Billy Graham Center, Despite being disqualified from public ministry by his former megachurch for a pattern of sinful behavior, James MacDonald is preaching at Generation, An Arizona megachurch has hired Landon MacDonald as a lead pastor, despite allegations MacDonald bullied and abused those in his care while. It was so much easier to read and understand. Just finished my post on clarifiers that will precede the deception lists. 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I agree that its loving to speak the truth, even when its unpopular, but the New Testament also has a lot to say about the way we conduct ourselves and how we should treat each other. . @jamesmacdonald. And many who have followed this story know what James McDonald has done. Instead, he blocked our access to his and Generation Churchs social media accounts. If not, youre probably looking at what Paul latter in the chapter describes as an immature child. Later that night, or first thing you know, into the wee hours of the next morning, the communication was out to the people of Harvest, and it was over. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. I had all the letters at that point. But before I dive into my interview with Dan, I just want to take a minute to thank the sponsors of the Roys report, Judson University and Marquardt of Barrington. We knew what we knew what we were going to do. There is a solution for our sin in Scripture. Rather, its helping those in bondage find freedom. Tell me about that meeting and what he did. I mean his letter, not just talking about the abusive behavior of James, but the things he did with the money going on African safaris with the church money. https://biblehub.com/hebrew/898.htm bagad (treachery aka abuse) is used FIVE times in Malachi 2:10-16!!! And we talk about that Scripture and quote it over and over again. I know its your hope too, Dan, and I just want to thank you. I just know I got them. Come out of her, my people. Hes like the whole the whole thing was about resigning. It is grounds for separation but not divorce., This view is popular in fundamentalist Christian circles. This is not my judgment but that of his elders from HBC. Ministry News. Right? Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of "Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse" by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Church, Ministry News And you know, told her that I would get it to the motherboard. She said a survey of 20,000 women for her book, The Great Sex Rescue, found that when men make the final decision in the marriage, even if they consult with their wife first, chances of divorce increases 7.4 times . If you hear that from the pulpit, or you hear that up front, I think, if Im sitting, if Im sitting in the seat, I think well, how fast can I get to my car and confess everything that just the Holy Spirit just brought to mind? You dont know how I got ahold of them. No, Julie Roys did not open the hood on James MacDonald, although she in her own hubris would like her audience to think that. And I said, Listen, I get it. However, MacDonald texted me an invitation to appear with him in a public forum to answer for the many many lies Ive reportedly written about him. Also, any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will be deleted. Its loving to give medicine to a sick patient, and its loving to speak the truth to a deceived person.. I followed his ministry for almost 2 decades. Dan resigned from the Harvest elder board in March 2019, calling for reform. That was you, wasnt it? If this passage defines what a strong husband looks like, I think most of the issues take care of themselves. Like this had been a months long drawn out battle. This man has been your pastor for decades. And welcome to the podcast. And Im just trying to smear him. So were in the meeting. He should sell cars or computers. We turned out to have six witnesses who wrote 28 pages with innumerable charges. Lets try little role reversal here. But somewhere around 2008-10 his preaching changed a bit. We had a group of Pastors who interviewed him and he gave us free tickets to his Straight Up conference. And all of the elders should resign and repent for what they did. And whats so tough in this whole thing is that there are wolves among the sheep. And I sat down on the couch in my office and cried. And I, I look back at those meetings that I was just describing, Julie, I dont I dont say this lightly. Again, only you and Mike Dunwoody, did that publicly. A strong woman with a stronger husband will become an unstoppable, gracious, and capable woman. The way James MacDonald is said to have treated others while pastor of Harvest and the way he behaves on Twitter dont seem to be in keeping with the way the New Testament says we should behave. I wish Id never done it. Julie Roys knows she published many false statements about me, false statements now proven such in a court of law, yet she has retracted nothing. If youre truly interested in hearing other views ask why or tell me how you landed there. And he says he refuses to read it and says hes not going to mislead the congregation. Roys detailed evidence from former Harvest elders, employees, and members that . I agree. I didnt know these things were going on, but Im so sorry. And there were several of us saying, you know, looking at I Timothy 5, looking at Hebrews 13:17, which tells us that elders are going to give an account. Jared Prayed for you just now. And I was still on the board. So Rick was, in effect, the Assistant senior pastor. Had they reached all the elders at this point? He also advertised an upcoming GrampCampan overnight retreat providing training and tools for grandparents to connect with their grandkids. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! And that was the day that Mancow Muller aired these excerpts. And when he sees he cant save it, it sounds like then he was trying to lobby for being able to resign, and a lot of emotional manipulation being used that weekend from from what youve told me. The leaders were brought together. If you wind back and in in elder meetings, I remember it being said by several several people, years before, if people start arguing the process, you know, you have them right up there arguing in the process. And everybody had to say, right? To donate, click here. Harvest Bible Chapel Sues Former Members, Julie Roys for Defamation; Harvest Bible Chapel's chief information officer allegedly stole $270K; Harvest Bible Chapel to launch 'Freedom House' 90-day residential addiction recovery program ; James MacDonald Reflects on 30 Years in Ministry, #MeToo, Millennials and Future of Faith in the US Harvest Insider Tells What Really Happened with James MacDonald. Thanks for for standing up for what was right. And and again, I got out of this like so unbelievably easily. You know, Ive been here the whole time. Hes talking about James McDonald, but not calling him out by name. On January 7, 2019, Harvest elders announced they decided to drop the lawsuit against Julie Roys and four other individuals. And I turned to Scripture, and I went to Psalm 32, where you know, the companion to Psalm 51, where Davids writing. As youll hear in this podcast, there was a strong push to suppress those letters by those loyal to James McDonald. And I hadnt I hadnt signed that yet, I hadnt given a statement yet. The picture with deceiver Kari Lake speaks volumes! How do you how do you do anything with 30 people? I still dont understand all sides of the transgender issue, but can say 2 things: 1. On February 13, the elders announced James MacDonald had been fired . Very interesting discussion. This is going amongst the elders now. Literally more than two dozen people. I said, again, please dont do it just because Im asking you. According to anindependent auditof Harvest Bible Chapel, disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, siphoned off millions in church funds to support his lavish lifestyle. And why do you do it in front of everybody? And we had consensus from everybody in the room that James McDonald was not qualified to as an elder and that his employment at Harvest Bible Chapel was over. There were voices raised. Im sorry, before a so called board.removes a man of God they must first consider the fruit of his ministry. Rick, Donald actually had talked to me after the meeting and said, how much that meant to James. It wasnt an argument. Ryan Visconti, the Arizona pastor platforming discredited celebrity preacher James MacDonald is attracting attentionnot just for his new partnership, but also his provocative social media posts about women and marriage. Bank Dismisses Foreclosure on James MacDonald's Estate After Settlement with Harvest. The headlines really heated up after the December 2018 publication of "Hard Times at Harvest," a lengthy expos by investigative journalist Julie Roys. When I did not immediately respond, MacDonald tweeted I had declined his invitation, which I did not. The Roys Report is a Christian media outlet, reporting the unvarnished truth about what's happening in the Christian community so the church can be reformed and restored. One is, I dont want people to give up on the church. You know, they asked him as an executive committee member and the elder board chairman. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Still. Any update on the James MacDonald vs Harvest debacle? . You are Julie. Theres no joy in doing this. Vernick, however, believes abuse is grounds for divorce. To donate, click here. This story saddens me. Its a reference to sex magik and the leaders have given a hat tip to their god right in the church name. Who Will Pay for the SBCs Abuse Reforms Over the Long Term? Theres still one more thing I want to ask about. This is this is one of the biggest things elders could do. And, and the drama begins. And learn how MacDonald almost escaped being exposedand how six scathing letters that revealed MacDonalds true nature almost failed to reach the elder board. Wow! Well, you know, we laugh about it. I called him. Were talking about the difference of maybe a day. There would be no Roys Report without Judson University. If the church wants to regulate marriage, let them say you cant get remarried in their church if you are already married in the eyes of the church. Well she finally called Julie Jezebel Roys I invited Julie to appear in a public forum before and interested audience and answer for the many many lies she has told about me and my family as well as her bullying of anyone who opposes her or stands with us. Only Gods opinion is what counts. Now what we did do is there were probably I dont remember the number Julie. harmful to the best interests, Disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, continued his tirade against me and The Roys Report on Tuesday, repeatedly calling me #JRgossipslut and asserting that I am, According to anindependent auditof Harvest Bible Chapel, disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, siphoned off millions in church funds to support his lavish lifestyle. I remember that too. And by that time Harvest was 30, in its 31st. You know, theres, I would say, round two, but I my guess is there were lots of small rounds in there, of people being silenced and bringing charges and, and the board looking the other way. Whats wrong with Visconti supporting Kari Lake or speaking out against abortion or transgenderism? MacDonald notes in the email that about a month after the settlement, he was able to write to recipients of the email. My spouse and I and many others went to college with James in the eighties in Canada. We will talk through it. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. "Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald": Julie Roys' Response February 12, 2019 Cherie Vandermillen [Julie Roys] I never thought I would hear an evangelical, mega-church pastor talk about planting child pornography on the computer of an executive at a Christian publication. My husband really appreciates James McDonalds preaching against my better judgement I told him about the new messagesso we have the Advent message from his Home Church network cast to the TV I had planned to leave the room so I didnt have to watch it I have to tell you he sounds sincere (without wax) I find the whole situation so heart breaking and confusing. I wrote back to her, and I apologized to her. That would be acceptable teaching. No one takes joy in doing this. The elder board of Harvest Bible Chapel formally apologized to independent journalist Julie Roys and several former members, months after joining founder James MacDonald in a defamation lawsuit accusing them of publishing false information about the church's management and finances last fall. And again, Im going from memory, but also from what Ron Duitsman recently said. And yet so many still have not and still waiting for James McDonald to do that. But the one letter that isnt published came from Sandy Song. 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